Last entry on the Lively-Class British frigates.
From Naval Database.
The HMS Laurel was a 1088 ton, fifth-rate 38-gun frigate.
On 5 Nov 1813 it was on a convoy to Brazil and the Cape of Good Hope from Portsmouth. 21 December 1813 arrived Madeira.
23 November 1814 arrived in Portsmouth from Cape of Good Hope.
1849-- in ordinary in Portsmouth. 1860-- rerated as a 42-gun frigate. 1864 in harbor service.
1870 Floating lavatory in Portsmouth. 1879 Late Floating Lavatory.
Not Such a Good Demise. --Brock-Perry
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Friday, February 28, 2014
HMS Laurel: Lively-Class Frigates-- Part 10
Wrecksite.com. and Family Tree Service site.
First, I'll start on some previous HMS Laurels operating during the Napoleonic Wars and War of 1812.
HMS LAUREL, a fourth-rate frigate built 1806 and wrecked in the West Indies Oct. 1813.
The seventh HMS LAUREL was a 22-gun, sixth rate frigate launched 1806 and captured by the French in 1808.
The eighth HMS LAUREL was a ten-gun cutter launched in 1806 which captured the French privateer Rhone in 1807 and the Jeune Laurein 1808. Captured by the French in 1808.
The next HMS Laurel was a 36-gun, fifth rate frigate captured from France in 1809, originally the Fidelle. Wrecked 1812.
The Lively-class HMS Laurel was a 36-gun, fifth rate launched in 1813, used in harbor service in 1864 and broken up in 1885.
--Brock-Perry
First, I'll start on some previous HMS Laurels operating during the Napoleonic Wars and War of 1812.
HMS LAUREL, a fourth-rate frigate built 1806 and wrecked in the West Indies Oct. 1813.
The seventh HMS LAUREL was a 22-gun, sixth rate frigate launched 1806 and captured by the French in 1808.
The eighth HMS LAUREL was a ten-gun cutter launched in 1806 which captured the French privateer Rhone in 1807 and the Jeune Laurein 1808. Captured by the French in 1808.
The next HMS Laurel was a 36-gun, fifth rate frigate captured from France in 1809, originally the Fidelle. Wrecked 1812.
The Lively-class HMS Laurel was a 36-gun, fifth rate launched in 1813, used in harbor service in 1864 and broken up in 1885.
--Brock-Perry
Thursday, February 27, 2014
HMS Sirius: Lively-Class Frigates-- Part 10
Replaced the 1797 HMS Sirius that was scuttled in 1810 at the Battle of Grand Port in the Napoleonic Wars. The Lively-class frigate was a fifth rate with 38 guns, launched in either 1813 or 1815. Used as a target ship from 1860 and lost 1868. Another source says it was broken up in 1862. //// --Brock-Perry
HMS Nymphe: Lively-Class Frigates-- Part 9
Wikipedia.
The HMS Nymphe may refer to the 36-gun, fifth rate frigate which was captured from the Dutch in 1807 and was to have been renamed the HMS Determinee, but did not happen. Sold in 1816.
Or, it may refer to the HMS NYMPHE, a 38-gun, fifth rate frigate originally built as the HMS Neriede but renamed in 1811 and launched in 1812. Placed in harbor service in 1836 and renamed HMS Handy in 1871 before broken up in 1875.
This last one was most likely the Lively-Class frigate.
--Brock-Perry
The HMS Nymphe may refer to the 36-gun, fifth rate frigate which was captured from the Dutch in 1807 and was to have been renamed the HMS Determinee, but did not happen. Sold in 1816.
Or, it may refer to the HMS NYMPHE, a 38-gun, fifth rate frigate originally built as the HMS Neriede but renamed in 1811 and launched in 1812. Placed in harbor service in 1836 and renamed HMS Handy in 1871 before broken up in 1875.
This last one was most likely the Lively-Class frigate.
--Brock-Perry
HMS Crescent and HMS Bacchante: Lively-Class Frigates-- Part 8
HMS CRESCENT entered service 1810 and reassigned to harbor service 1840. Sold 1854.
HMS BACCHANTE Entered service 1812. Fought in Napoleonic Wars. Harbor service 1837. Scrapped 1858.
--Brock-Perry
HMS BACCHANTE Entered service 1812. Fought in Napoleonic Wars. Harbor service 1837. Scrapped 1858.
--Brock-Perry
HMS Menelaus and Nisus-- Lively-Class Frigates-- Part 7
I have already written a lot about the HMS Menelaus which entered service in 1810 under the command of Captain Peter Parker. The ship lasted a long time before being broken up in 1897.
HMS NISUS Entered service 1810 and used in the Napoleonic Wars. Laid up 1815 and broken up 1822.
--Brock-Perry
HMS NISUS Entered service 1810 and used in the Napoleonic Wars. Laid up 1815 and broken up 1822.
--Brock-Perry
Tuesday, February 25, 2014
HMS Macedonian: Lively-Class Frigate-- Part 6
From Wikipedia.
The HMS Macedonian was one of the outclassed British frigates which lost a solo battle with an American frigate during the war.
In 1810, it operated off Portugal and was involved in the Napoleonic Wars. In Jan. 1812, it went to Norfolk, Virginia (before war was declared in June), for a secret deal to keep the Bank of England solvent. While there, its captain, John Garden, bungled the mission by revealing it to his friend, U.S. Navy Captain Stephan Decatur while dining and drinking together. Garden even bet his beaver hat that his ship could beat Decatur's ship, the USS United States in a ship-vs.-ship fight.
On October 22, 1812, the two ships and captains met in that fight. The United States had the much heavier broadside and in short time, all three of the Macedonian's masts were down and the ship's hull was riddled with shot.
The Macedonian became the second British frigate to surrender to the U.S. Navy, the HMS Guerriere being the first. However, the Macedonian could be saved and after repairs, was taken into the U.S. Navy as the USS Macedonian.
--Brock-Perry
The HMS Macedonian was one of the outclassed British frigates which lost a solo battle with an American frigate during the war.
In 1810, it operated off Portugal and was involved in the Napoleonic Wars. In Jan. 1812, it went to Norfolk, Virginia (before war was declared in June), for a secret deal to keep the Bank of England solvent. While there, its captain, John Garden, bungled the mission by revealing it to his friend, U.S. Navy Captain Stephan Decatur while dining and drinking together. Garden even bet his beaver hat that his ship could beat Decatur's ship, the USS United States in a ship-vs.-ship fight.
On October 22, 1812, the two ships and captains met in that fight. The United States had the much heavier broadside and in short time, all three of the Macedonian's masts were down and the ship's hull was riddled with shot.
The Macedonian became the second British frigate to surrender to the U.S. Navy, the HMS Guerriere being the first. However, the Macedonian could be saved and after repairs, was taken into the U.S. Navy as the USS Macedonian.
--Brock-Perry
Monday, February 24, 2014
HMS Macedonian: Lively-Class Frigate-- Part 5
The HMS Macedonian was ordered 28 September 1808 and built at Woolrich Dockyard. Laid down: May 1809. Launched 2 June 1810. Completed: 6 July 1810 at Chatham Dockyard.
FATE: Captured by the USS United States 25 October 1812 and served as USS Macedonian until broken up in 1834.
--Brock-Perry
Saturday, February 22, 2014
British Lively-Class Frigates-- Part 4: HMS Horatio and Spartan
HMS HORATIO. Primarily used in Napoleonic Wars. Mainly guarded convoys. Launched 1807 and broken up in 1861. Was this where Forrester got his Horatio Hornblower character from or perhaps Nelson?
HMS SPARTAN: Launched 1806, broken up 1822. In July 1812, captured two American merchant ships. It and the HMS Maidstone on 3 August 1812, captured US Revenue Cutter Commodore Barry, 6 guns, and three privateer schooners: Madison, Olive and Spence (Spruce?). The crew of the Spartan received prize money for capture of Barry in 1822.
On 17 October 1812, the Spartan and Maidstone captured the privateer Rapid.
After that, the Spartan went back to Europe and was broken up in 1822.
--Brock-Perry
HMS SPARTAN: Launched 1806, broken up 1822. In July 1812, captured two American merchant ships. It and the HMS Maidstone on 3 August 1812, captured US Revenue Cutter Commodore Barry, 6 guns, and three privateer schooners: Madison, Olive and Spence (Spruce?). The crew of the Spartan received prize money for capture of Barry in 1822.
On 17 October 1812, the Spartan and Maidstone captured the privateer Rapid.
After that, the Spartan went back to Europe and was broken up in 1822.
--Brock-Perry
Saturday, February 8, 2014
HMS Statira-- Part 3
The Three refer to the HMS Statira, HMS Martin and HMS Spartan.
JUNE 6: The Three capture the American brig Hetty.
JUNE7: The Three recapture the American brig Hero and capture the American schooner Bella.
JUNE 10: The Three capture Spanish schooner El Carmin.
JUNE 14: The Three capture the ship Gustoff.
JUNE 15: The Three capture the American schooner Farmer.
JUNE 17: The Three capture an American schooner.
Not surprisingly with all these prizes, on JUNE 20th the Spartan left for Halifax, leaving the Statira and Martin to operate off the Delaware coast.
A Successful Cruise. --Brock-Perry
JUNE 6: The Three capture the American brig Hetty.
JUNE7: The Three recapture the American brig Hero and capture the American schooner Bella.
JUNE 10: The Three capture Spanish schooner El Carmin.
JUNE 14: The Three capture the ship Gustoff.
JUNE 15: The Three capture the American schooner Farmer.
JUNE 17: The Three capture an American schooner.
Not surprisingly with all these prizes, on JUNE 20th the Spartan left for Halifax, leaving the Statira and Martin to operate off the Delaware coast.
A Successful Cruise. --Brock-Perry
HMS Statira-- Part 2
From 1 June 1813 to 20 June 1813, the Statira was with the HMS Spartan, a sister ship, and HMS Martin in a very successful operation. I will refer to them as "The Three" to save some typing.
1 JUNE: The Three capture the American brigs Valador and Fanny.
CIRCA 2 JUNE: The Three capture sloops Express, Dispatch, Betsy, Caroline, Priscilla, Morning Star, Sally, Sarah, Ploughboy, George and brig Commerce and the Potuguese brig Flora. (Not a nad day's work and lots of prize money, no doubt).
3 JUNE: The Three capture the brig Fanny. (Possibly a mistake as they captured a brig named Fanny two days earlier.)
4 JUNE: The Three capture the Portuguese brig Carlotta.
5 JUNE: The Three capture the Portugueses brig Flor de Lisbon. (I'm figuring perhaps Portugal was at war with Britain over in Europe or perhaps the Potuguese ships were ignoring the blockade.
Nice Haul on the Second. --Brock-Perry
1 JUNE: The Three capture the American brigs Valador and Fanny.
CIRCA 2 JUNE: The Three capture sloops Express, Dispatch, Betsy, Caroline, Priscilla, Morning Star, Sally, Sarah, Ploughboy, George and brig Commerce and the Potuguese brig Flora. (Not a nad day's work and lots of prize money, no doubt).
3 JUNE: The Three capture the brig Fanny. (Possibly a mistake as they captured a brig named Fanny two days earlier.)
4 JUNE: The Three capture the Portuguese brig Carlotta.
5 JUNE: The Three capture the Portugueses brig Flor de Lisbon. (I'm figuring perhaps Portugal was at war with Britain over in Europe or perhaps the Potuguese ships were ignoring the blockade.
Nice Haul on the Second. --Brock-Perry
HMS Statira-- Part 1
From the Naval Database site. Continued from Lively-Class Part 3 from Feb.5th.
In mid 1810, it was the flagship of Sir Alexander Cochrane, who would later gain fame for his operations off the U.S. coast during the War of1812.
In mid-1812, it was chased by a U.S. squadron under rhe command of Commodore Rodgers. 11 August 1812, it captured the American privateer Buckskin. On February 8, 1863, boats from the Statira and others in Lynhaven Bay chased and captured the American privateer schooner Lottery which later served the British Navy as the HMS Canso.
In March 1813, armed U.S. schooners Arab, Lynx, Racer and Dolphin escaped into Virginia's Rappahannock River and boats from the Statira captured them. The Racer and Lynx later became the HMS Shelburne and Musquedobit.
More to Come. --Brock-Perry
In mid 1810, it was the flagship of Sir Alexander Cochrane, who would later gain fame for his operations off the U.S. coast during the War of1812.
In mid-1812, it was chased by a U.S. squadron under rhe command of Commodore Rodgers. 11 August 1812, it captured the American privateer Buckskin. On February 8, 1863, boats from the Statira and others in Lynhaven Bay chased and captured the American privateer schooner Lottery which later served the British Navy as the HMS Canso.
In March 1813, armed U.S. schooners Arab, Lynx, Racer and Dolphin escaped into Virginia's Rappahannock River and boats from the Statira captured them. The Racer and Lynx later became the HMS Shelburne and Musquedobit.
More to Come. --Brock-Perry
Wednesday, February 5, 2014
British Lively-Clas Frigates-- Part 3: HMS Statira
This one was accidentally listed as the HMS Satira in the Wikipedia article.
The HMS Satira was launched in 1807 and accidentally wrecked off Cuba in 1815. The Wreck Site says that in 1815, the Statira was commanded by Captain Swaine and sailing with a convoy from Bermuda to Ile Dauphin to join Sir Alexander Cochrane in February 1815.
It struck an uncharted rock off Cuba on February 26th and sank within 30 minutes, but all aboard were saved.
--Brock-Perry
The HMS Satira was launched in 1807 and accidentally wrecked off Cuba in 1815. The Wreck Site says that in 1815, the Statira was commanded by Captain Swaine and sailing with a convoy from Bermuda to Ile Dauphin to join Sir Alexander Cochrane in February 1815.
It struck an uncharted rock off Cuba on February 26th and sank within 30 minutes, but all aboard were saved.
--Brock-Perry
British Lively-Class Frigates-- Part 2
Here is a list of the 16 ships in the class and final disposition. These were quite the work horses of the British Navy, at least two of them fighting against the United States in the War of 1812:
1. LIVELY-- Launched 1804. Wrecked off Malta in the Mediterranean in 1810. (Lost on rocks off Point Coura, Malta, 26 August, 1810, all saved.)
RESISTANCE-- Launched 1805 Broken up 1858
APOLLO-- Launched 1805. Broken up 1856
HUSSAR-- Launched 1807 and accidentally burnt 1861.
UNDAUNTED-- Launched 1807, broken up 1860. Carried Napoleon to exile on the island of Elba in 1814.
--Brock-Perry
1. LIVELY-- Launched 1804. Wrecked off Malta in the Mediterranean in 1810. (Lost on rocks off Point Coura, Malta, 26 August, 1810, all saved.)
RESISTANCE-- Launched 1805 Broken up 1858
APOLLO-- Launched 1805. Broken up 1856
HUSSAR-- Launched 1807 and accidentally burnt 1861.
UNDAUNTED-- Launched 1807, broken up 1860. Carried Napoleon to exile on the island of Elba in 1814.
--Brock-Perry
Tuesday, February 4, 2014
British Lively-Class Frigates-- Part 1
From Wikipedia.
The class consisted of 16 Royal Navy 38-gun frigates built starting in 1799 to the design of Sir William Rule. They served in the Napoleonic Wars and War of 1812, the most famous of them probably were the HMS Macedonian and Menelaus.
The prototype, the HMS Lively, was launched in 1804. By then, an additional four had been ordered to the same design and then eleven more to a similar design.
Even the United States Navy ordered one to the design of the captured HMS Macedonian in 1832 and launched in 1836 as the USS Macedonian. I'll write about this ship in my Civil War Navy Blog as it served during the war.
Up Next, A Short History of the Lively-Class Ships. --Brock-Perry
The class consisted of 16 Royal Navy 38-gun frigates built starting in 1799 to the design of Sir William Rule. They served in the Napoleonic Wars and War of 1812, the most famous of them probably were the HMS Macedonian and Menelaus.
The prototype, the HMS Lively, was launched in 1804. By then, an additional four had been ordered to the same design and then eleven more to a similar design.
Even the United States Navy ordered one to the design of the captured HMS Macedonian in 1832 and launched in 1836 as the USS Macedonian. I'll write about this ship in my Civil War Navy Blog as it served during the war.
Up Next, A Short History of the Lively-Class Ships. --Brock-Perry
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