The wrecks of the HMS St. Lawrence, HMS Prince Regent, HMS Wolfe and USSsloop Jefferson have all been identified in Lake Ontario. The remains of the USS Eagle, schooner USS Ticonderoga and sloop HMS Linnet have been found in Lake Chaplain
Of course, there is the original USS Constitution in Boston, and even though the ship did not participate in the Americas, the HMS Vicory, an example of a first-rate ship-of-the-line is in England.
There is a replica of Perry's flagship, the USS Niagara, based out of Erie , Pennsylvania.
The HMS St. Lawrence was rebuilt from 1976-1977 and sailed around the world until it sank in a squall in 1986.
Canada has plans to rebuild the HMS Detroit, Barclay's flagship. The original was raised by the Americans in 1837 and renamed the Veto with plans to send it over the Niagara Falls as a message to President John Tyler. The keel of the replica was laid in 2000, but funds dried up and work stopped.
Recently, a salvage company discovered what is thought to be the well-preserved wreck of the Canadian-built frigate HMS Caledonia, but a U.S. court ruled against raising it because of the men who went down with her.
John Marsh wrote this.
So, Now You Know. --Brock-Perry
2012 marks the 200th anniversary of America's "Forgotten War," the War of 1812 that took place over three years, 1812 to 1815.
Battle of New Orleans.
Showing posts with label ship classifications. Show all posts
Showing posts with label ship classifications. Show all posts
Friday, March 8, 2013
Ships of the War of 1812-- Part 3
SLOOP-- smaller than a frigate and could carry up to 20 guns. Single masted. Examples of sloops would be the HMS Detroit and HMS Wolfe, flagship of Commodore James Yeo on Lake Ontario.
SURVIVING SHIPS OR WRECKS FROM THE WAR
There are at least 15 ships either afloat or their wrecks that are known.
In 1973, there was a big discovery of the USS Scourge and Hamilton, 88 meters down in Lake Ontario. Both capsized in a storm August 8, 1813, and 100 men died. Both landed on the lake floor upright and are well-preserved.
The hull of the HMS Tecumseh was raised in 1953 and can be seen at Penetonguishere along with the remains of the Scorpion and the bowribs of the brig Naawash.
There are remains of the HMS Nancy, a British supply ship sunk in the Nottawasaga River.
More to Come. --Brock-Perry
SURVIVING SHIPS OR WRECKS FROM THE WAR
There are at least 15 ships either afloat or their wrecks that are known.
In 1973, there was a big discovery of the USS Scourge and Hamilton, 88 meters down in Lake Ontario. Both capsized in a storm August 8, 1813, and 100 men died. Both landed on the lake floor upright and are well-preserved.
The hull of the HMS Tecumseh was raised in 1953 and can be seen at Penetonguishere along with the remains of the Scorpion and the bowribs of the brig Naawash.
There are remains of the HMS Nancy, a British supply ship sunk in the Nottawasaga River.
More to Come. --Brock-Perry
Thursday, March 7, 2013
Ships of the War of 1812-- Part 2
SCHOONERS--On of the most elegant and manageable sailing vessels, typically two-masted and a very common ship on Lake Ontario. These ships were used for transportation and privateers. The Hamilton and Scourge were schooners. The Canadian privateer Liverpool Packet, operating out of Liverpool, Nova Scotia, captured 50 American prizes.
FRIGATES-- often as long as a ship-of-the-line. Three masts and square-rigged, faster and smaller armament (about 28 guns, generally used for patrol or escort. The HMS Shannon was a famous frigate that captured the USS Chesapeake.
American frigates were less numerous, but stronger and carried more guns of higher caliber and range. A British frigate fighting an American one was a very one-sided battle.
These would have been the later-day cruisers.
More to Come. --Brock-Perry
FRIGATES-- often as long as a ship-of-the-line. Three masts and square-rigged, faster and smaller armament (about 28 guns, generally used for patrol or escort. The HMS Shannon was a famous frigate that captured the USS Chesapeake.
American frigates were less numerous, but stronger and carried more guns of higher caliber and range. A British frigate fighting an American one was a very one-sided battle.
These would have been the later-day cruisers.
More to Come. --Brock-Perry
Ships of the War of 1812-- Part 1
From the War of 1812 Blog www.eighteentwelve.ca
I use the names brigs, frigates and ships-of-the-line quite often. I know what the ships are, but perhaps others don't. This blog entry on the excellent site puts it in perspective.
One of the major problems facing the British was supplying Upper Canada. Shipping was extremely vulnerable along the St. Lawrence River to Lake Ontario.
BRIGS had two square-rigged masts and carried 10-20 guns.
SHIP-OF-THE-LINE-- These ships were made specifically to take their place in a line of battle, the method navies back then fought, with ships in a line. Opposing fleets would form two opposite lines and hammer away at each other.
They carried between 60 and 110 guns. A First Rate had three decks and carried 90+ guns, a Second Rate also had three decks but80-89 guns, Third Rate over 54 guns on two decks and Fourth Rate also with two decks and over 38 guns. These ships were used most often for communication and convoy duty.
Fifth and Sixth Rate were considered too small to be in large sea battles.
These would have been considered to be the battleships of their day. Early battleships were also used in lines to pound away at the enemy fleet.
More to Come. --Brock-Perry
I use the names brigs, frigates and ships-of-the-line quite often. I know what the ships are, but perhaps others don't. This blog entry on the excellent site puts it in perspective.
One of the major problems facing the British was supplying Upper Canada. Shipping was extremely vulnerable along the St. Lawrence River to Lake Ontario.
BRIGS had two square-rigged masts and carried 10-20 guns.
SHIP-OF-THE-LINE-- These ships were made specifically to take their place in a line of battle, the method navies back then fought, with ships in a line. Opposing fleets would form two opposite lines and hammer away at each other.
They carried between 60 and 110 guns. A First Rate had three decks and carried 90+ guns, a Second Rate also had three decks but80-89 guns, Third Rate over 54 guns on two decks and Fourth Rate also with two decks and over 38 guns. These ships were used most often for communication and convoy duty.
Fifth and Sixth Rate were considered too small to be in large sea battles.
These would have been considered to be the battleships of their day. Early battleships were also used in lines to pound away at the enemy fleet.
More to Come. --Brock-Perry
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